Recently I added a remote start to my car. All is good in the world. Unfortunately, I work at an airport and my car is about a 15 minute shuttle ride from my office. There is not much opportunity to ‘stand at the door and wait for warm car’ there.
But cruising the web, I happened upon the Viper website, where I read about a new system where you can start your car via an iPhone from virtually anywhere. After looking into the system, I soon stumbled onto the fact that the system is ridiculously expensive, as is everything that has to do with the Godforsaken iPhone newer technology. Further research on the subject yielded little hope, as all other systems were out of my budget (cheap as heck).
My co-worker and I started daydreaming on the subject (what goes on at an airport that we would need to pay attention?) When I stumbled on an idea. My remote start has a wire called the Remote Start Activation Input. Now the job of the RSAI is, from the manual: “This wire will start the vehicle when it sees two negative pulses. Only used when incorporating into existing alarm or FOR TESTING PURPOSES.” That last part I capped and bolded, as that is what is most important for me. “Testing” consists of simply grounding that wire for two pulses in order to start the car. Two more pulses shuts it down, exactly like using the remote.
Bingo, I had my way in! Here is what I came up with:
I hope you can tell what is going on there. If not, here is a synopsis, and a little bit of method behind my madness…
The remote start requires 2 pulses within 3? seconds to initiate the remote start sequence. So how to send those 2 pulses? Easy, I remove the vibrate motor from a cell phone or pager and use that circuit to initiate the remote start by setting the phone to vibrate. But wait…the RSAI only works when put to ground, that circuit has (after testing) a 1.35v current. I guess I have to use a relay! Oh no…The remote start turns off after 2 MORE pulses. How do I get the cell phone to STOP sending rings? Hrm…
The answer came from beegbie over at the12volt.com. The remote start start up sequence goes like this. Sense Input>Turn on Accessories>Try to Crank Engine. If I put a normally closed relay on the vibrate circuit triggered by the vehicle accessory circuit, then once the remote start sequence kicks off, any subsequent rings by the phone won’t be ‘heard’ by the remote start.
Whew!
Here are some pictures of the tear down and modification of the cell phone:
Purchased this phone for $10 from CVS Pharmacy along with $20 worth of prepaid minutes. Phone came with a battery and wall wart charger.
Removed the 6 tri-wing (fail) screws holding the inner bezel on. Once off, all the goodies are revealed. You can remove the PCB fairly easily, but for the most part it is single sided.
Here I have already removed the vibrate motor and soldered wired back into it’s place. I wanted an easy way to remove the phone if I needed to make any modifications to it or add minutes, or hell, even make an emergency phone call. I decided on desoldering the headphone jack from and isolating it with that paper stuff I got from another board. I glued the paper down, then glued the jack to it. Then I soldered the pins that correlate to the 2nd & 3rd pins on the headphone jack to the wires coming off the vibrate motor resistors. I chose (had no choice) to solder the wires to the resistors due to me tearing out the traces on the pcb when removing the motor. I was a little skittish applying the amount of heat required to remove that bish, thinking I might desolder some of the tiny little components around it. Also of interest to some would be my choice of wire. That is two strands from a IDE connector. One is marked to denote it’s polarity. (It helped, really.)
Here is a picture of the headphone jack lookin’ all normal and stuff. I like a nice clean install. This way the phone loses only the functionality of vibrate and using a headset. I can still set the ringer, make calls, etc.
Here is the modified headphone jack for the hookup. This is a 2.5mm (mini) headphone jack that I had from a cheap headset from another phone. The wires were those damned coated wires, and quite puny at that, so I cut apart the boot and desoldered them at the source. I then removed 2 wires from a 10ft piece of cat5e and soldered them in place, shrink wrapped and Bob’s yer uncle. Why, you should ask, did I use Ethernet cable. Several reasons: It is sturdy, it was solid not stranded, I could pick my length and I have about 300 feet in a box behind me.
All in all I think the thing may actually work. I need to source some cheap solid state relays that initiate below 1.5 volts. I am also thinking about maybe using an optoisolator, as I have 2 in a scavenged pcb beside me that are in the correct voltage range. I will still need a 30A auto fuse for the other relay, though. I have a breadboard on order from Sparkfun that should come in handy for testing.
The best part of this project are the possibilities. Not only can I remote start my car from afar, I can also use the other features of the phone to automate the remote start. I can set up to 4 alarms on this phone, and set them to vibrate. Since I work 4×10 shift, that is perfect for starting my car everyday before work. Also, that phone has a timer on it that can also trigger the vibrate function. Haven’t figgered out a practical use for that yet. But the Pièce de résistance is the Calendar. I can set nearly unlimited events into the calendar, and set an alarm to trigger the vibrate at or before the event in 15 minute intervals. I can also set the as ‘recurring events’, too. I could program in mine and my wife’s work schedules, upcoming doctors appointments, ANYTHING! Not bad for a $10 phone. I am glad that I decided to make the phone easily connect/disconnectable.
Check out Part 2 to see if I can actually pull it off.
April 3rd, 2010 on 3:40 PM
Does this work with manual cars? I could really use this with my 97 TDI Jetta. It would sure beat going out in the middle of winter to start the thing and leave it run for 10 minutes while I shiver uncontrollably, and since I leave the defrost on, that would not be a problem either!
Also, about the phone minutes thing. Wouldn’t there be a way to hook it up with google voice or some other free service like that?? Just a thought, don’t really know the requirements/merits of GV.
September 16th, 2010 on 1:28 AM
i’m sure it will. the only reason most companies do not install remote start of (TRUE) manual vehicles is due to liability. most people habitually place their 5spd cars into gear when they shut them off…so you can see the issue with adding remote start to a manual vehicle, which is in 1st gear while parked. insurance and possible lawsuits.
June 9th, 2010 on 9:53 PM
after many long hours of reading and researching I finally got it all figure out and … it works great!!
If anyone is trying to replicate this same idea I’d be happy to explain how I did it as well, although it’s identical to dave’s hack.
I’d give my email but i’m afraid of spam, lol. it does require a lot of patience and some skill with soldering since rushing will only mess things up. In the end I only had three wires to connect, one for the remote start, one for a 12v acc and one for a ground.
There was one thing that I added, I bought a mini usb car charger from ebay and connected it to the car as well because i noticed the battery doesn’t last long and now when the remote start turns on or the car is on for any reason the cell phone gets charged automatically.
July 19th, 2010 on 10:37 PM
I just have a regular car charger that I had hard wired to the inside of the accessory port.
July 12th, 2010 on 6:34 AM
hey plz. cn u tel me in which other phones this is available….v hve 2 make a project…so cn u plz. guide me for that…reply soon
July 19th, 2010 on 10:36 PM
This will work with any phone that you can tear apart and patch into the vibrate motor. Sky is the limit.
July 15th, 2010 on 9:42 AM
Is this possible to do with any other cdma phones? I sell page plus and their minutes are good for 4 months instead of the traditional 1 month. I can use almost any verizon phone for page plus. Long term it makes more sense to go with that company as their minimum is $10 for 100 minutes, and that should last the 4 months so you would only have to add $30 per year to do it this way. I am certainly concidering this for my truck. Kudos
July 19th, 2010 on 10:35 PM
Actually the new version I am working (slowly) on should work on any phone with:
– Customizable ring tones.
– Automatic call answering.
Should be pretty cheap if you have a regular cell account (i.e. Spring, At&t…) that you can add-a-line for $10/month.
September 6th, 2010 on 8:13 AM
OK, some time has gone by now i the kit available sale yet?
September 7th, 2010 on 8:12 PM
HAY WHATS UP IS IT FOR SALE YET?
September 21st, 2010 on 2:12 AM
lol, not yet.
September 13th, 2010 on 11:28 AM
Which remote started did you get? I have looked at a few and not all of them seem to have a “test” option.
October 28th, 2010 on 5:50 PM
I would really like to buy this as a kit, and hook it up to my car alarm/starter. It would work quite well.
October 29th, 2010 on 10:53 PM
Awesome project, but really it can be done with only using simple pager which also eliminates possibility of someone diling the wrong number.
December 9th, 2010 on 4:15 PM
Who knows how to wire GSM to send stored sms to preprogrammed no when receiving a signal say from power loss alarm? I thought of maybe soldering contacts to redial button but was unsuccesfull Do car kit/handsfree kits maybe have wiring available for this?
December 14th, 2010 on 3:56 PM
Hey, im thinking about doing this project for myself. Think you could shoot me an email so we can talk back and forth so I can ask some questions?
December 30th, 2010 on 2:01 PM
I am sorry, but I do not want to share an email address at this time. You would be AMAZED at the amount of spam this blog gets.
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January 16th, 2011 on 10:14 AM
Hello, if i do the phone install, will my regular transmitter still work, having both would be great.
thanks, Bill
January 30th, 2011 on 8:51 AM
This sounds like a fantastic project. I’m wondering what would have to be done in order for it to be able to shut off the car as well
February 4th, 2011 on 8:41 PM
My son is 16 and is takinga digital class in high school for his first semaster he had a projec and an idea to biuld a remoat start for a car using text messaging and with a few chips and a sim card holder made it work it is on a proto type bord right now for his second semester project we are installing it in my wife car i use att all i do is pull my sim card out and install it in his device and it works start the car roll up windows lock unlock what ever we want all it needs is cell signal to recive a text
March 4th, 2011 on 7:39 PM
guess that will work with cruddy 10 dollar phone. But what about a Smartphone that you pay 100 a month for Internet and is currently discontinued. Yeaaaahhhh..DIDNT THINK SO
March 20th, 2011 on 4:27 AM
As long as the phone will vibrate, this hack will work. You can use just about anything that has a mechanical output. Cell phone, pager, etc. If I ever get around to working on it, my next version is going to work off the headset jack, and will work with nearly ANY phone. But, thanks for the smartass reply. It was motivational.
May 24th, 2011 on 12:28 PM
hello. can you tell me if i can use remote car strart rs-4 in every cars?? thank you
May 29th, 2011 on 7:28 AM
June 5th, 2011 on 4:07 PM
Hello, I am designing a similar system to start my car. Currently I am looking for cheap phone that has the option to have it vibrate from single number, and ring or be silent from the others. Does anyone know of such a phone that has this option. Used and cheap is what I’m looking for.
July 6th, 2011 on 10:11 PM
Damn, that is crazy cool. Nice job.
August 23rd, 2011 on 12:14 PM
Great info. Keep up the good work
September 28th, 2011 on 11:40 AM
Great job sir.Please keep updating projects like this.Its informative.Infact I am struck with an idea after seeing this post. can i start an electric motor automatically by making a phone call? please explain and guide me in this.
October 27th, 2011 on 12:34 PM
So, pretty much you just need to make the phone vibrate to start the car right? I’m new to this field, so I really don’t know what’s what yet. But, most phones will vibrate if you press the volume buttons on the side to turn the volume down to (what else?) vibrate. Would save minutes which seems to be the big F that factor. Same as calling the number? Or does turning the volume down to vibrate eliminate a needed pulse that you talked about?
October 27th, 2011 on 12:38 PM
I got excited and didnt realize I forgot to read parts 2 and 3. Sorry man.
November 1st, 2011 on 8:53 AM
hi Dave,
i have been thinking about doing this mod for awhile now and i had it figured out in my head except for the second relay needed to shut down the cell phone so thanks for the idea of adding the second relay. im going to install on my remote starter very soon. also i was thinking that if you had a light sensing or sound activated relay you could use them without having to modify the cell phone at all what do you think about that?
p.s. i also work at an airport and hate to have to be near my car to remote start it and thats why i need this mod also, thanks!
February 18th, 2012 on 1:52 AM
A friend of mine actually suggested a photo sensor taped to the screen. I think it’s a neat idea!
November 3rd, 2011 on 4:54 AM
i hope i can need it in my thesis and can u give me some
schematic diagram bout this system.
tnx hope u help me =)
November 3rd, 2011 on 5:02 AM
i hope i can use it in my thesis im an I.T student. will u give my some schematic diagram about this system. we have proposed thesis as AUTOMOBILE CONTROLLER SYSTEM FOR CAR/MOTORCYCLE by using a mobile phone in controlling this system. like on/off engine,horn,light and alarm system by sending a SMS command. the problem is we don’t know how to connect cars engine.as a receiver for the text command.hope you can help me thanks.=)
November 13th, 2011 on 4:00 PM
Well it seems a bit complicated, I suppose that the more reliable and convinient way is to install the car alarm system that already supports cellular control of the vehicle, for example Viper 5902
February 18th, 2012 on 1:48 AM
Price chief, price. Plus this is all about proof of concept and creating something.
November 19th, 2011 on 3:28 AM
I actually did exactly that. It works fantastic. Well, worked, lol. Using solid UTP cable was not the best as the vibration in the car made it break off. I need to re-do the connector to the project box with stranded cable. Link to your project if you get it done!
Have you thought about just using the alarm function of the cell phone? That way you don’t have to keep paying for the cell phone minutes. I’m thinking of using my old T-Mobile Nokia RH121 to turn on an irrigation system for my greenhouse.
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January 28th, 2012 on 9:42 PM
I got a few questions, the Activation input is only used for another source of turning on your car? Such as what you did by using the cell phone? Can I not use the activation wire if I am using the remote key that came with the starter? Also what if someone dials your cell phone numbers by accident (Not Friend or Family) just wrong number? Isn’t that dangerous or you have a way around that as well. Thanks.
February 18th, 2012 on 1:44 AM
Would not be dangerous unless you were napping in your car in your garage when they called. The car cannot be shutoff with a remote start once the key is inserted, it’s a built in safety to prevent someone (kids) from fooling with the remote and killing the engine at 65mph on the freeway!
February 7th, 2012 on 7:21 AM
Just curious, couldnt you have just hooked up the headphone jack to your rig without all the desoldering/resoldering. The phone would ring thru the headphones correct? Or am I missing something?
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March 10th, 2013 on 1:19 PM
Yes sir, I do approve.
I stumbled across this looking for something else related to this.
The manual states that this wire can be programmed to one pulse. Not sure how though.
April 15th, 2013 on 9:53 PM
i have myphone t28tv duo the problem is totaly grounded how to make remove this problem pls help.
July 5th, 2013 on 2:58 PM
I found this page trying to locate the service manual for the same phone — nice hack — would you send me the link for the service manual.
December 5th, 2013 on 5:55 AM
I would like to be able to turn on my 12 volt furnace at my island cabin which has only dc power. I have a wifi hot spot out there and a basic 12 volt thermostat (rv type) . I thought maybe I could put a switch in line that I could activate with my cell phone??
Any ideas?
Thanks
Tom
March 18th, 2015 on 8:36 AM
Way off subject here but you seem super smart at adding to/modifying cell phones. I was wondering, I picked up a new cell phone. Its called the “wime mini”. Its a watch phone. Well after buying and paying for it I realized you have to use earphones with the earphone jack to hear incoming calls. Can I add a little cell phone speaker to the earphone jack somehow so I can hear calls without a headset? I would also like to be able to still use the earphone jack for mp3s.
July 23rd, 2015 on 7:36 AM
Sorry so long for a reply.
But yes, you could hook up a small speaker. Unfortunately you would likely not be able to hear it very well. Most cell speakerphone speakers have amplifiers hooked into them. The headphone connection just does not have enough juice going to effectively power an external speaker. You may be able to scavenge a speakerphone speaker from an older cell phone, mount it in a rigid case (like a 5-Hour Energy bottle cap) directly to the 3.5mm jack and hope that it has a high enough efficiency to be able to hear.
Also, you would likely need a microphone in the rig somewhere as well. I’d wager to say the watch used the headset mic as well.
Good luck!